Forbidden planet's Monster from the ID part 3

 The real looks of the invisible monster Id from the Forbidden Planet

The look at the Morbius' peaceful looking villa with the lake on Altair IV. Nice matte painting with glittering water effects:

As a kid I went to see the Forbidden Planet movie as often as I could. Luckily for me, in the 60's and even 70's the film reruns in the Zagreb's numerous movie theatres, were quite frequent. One of the mysteries that bothered me was: What did the Monster of Id, that ultimate Bogey man,  really looked like if it were visible? Only the fire from the blasters, or if you like it more, from the flying saucer crew's disintegrators, made the monster shimmer in translucent light. In fact the kind of stroboscopic effects and the brilliant classic cell animation made the monster convincing. Even by today's tough standards, the sequences featuring the Id monster can go hand in hand with the best products of modern cg animation. In fact, I haven't figured out the exact looks of the invisible monster (notice the controversion here? ;-) until I have decided to make a restoration myself.
I wasn't satisfied by the restorations I have found by searching for images on the Internet. Anyway, I've done that hundreds of times with prehistoric animals. Using the stop function of any movies PC viewer makes it a piece of cake. So here is my pencil drawing of the Id monster. It's quite a bizarre looking creature created by a sort of symbiosis of the Dr. Morbius' subconsciousness and the almighty Krell machines. A biped, with no front limbs, with an oversized devilish looking toothy head placed on short torso and with a fat stumpy tail.

You must admit that, even when revealed in it's true form the Id monster looks intimidating. The Morbius' alter ego apparently wears doc's (Walter Pidgeon, 1897 – 1984 ) distinctive goatee. However, it looked more scary as featured in the movie and half-visible. Even more so, when invisible and melting down the doors of "indestructible" Krell metal.

 The Tasmanian Devil, often referred to as "Taz", is an animated cartoon character featured in the Warner Bros. Looney Tunes series of cartoons. Does he remind you of something or someone?

 After all, both images (the Id monster and the Cartoon character) are the products of the human imagination.
 But there's also, although remote, a resemblance with the Late Cretaceous (70-65 mya) theropods, like the northern hemisphere tyrannosaurids and peculiar southern hemisphere abelisaurids. While some Tyrannosaurids obviously still had some use from their shortened hands, the front limbs of abelisaurids seemed were quite useless and heading towards the rudimentary ones. If the great cataclysm, which wiped out all the dinosaurs (except the birds), wouldn't have happened, it is quite possible that some of the advanced long-legged theropods would have been without the front limbs. It was a matter of a mere few millions of years, which they didn't have to evolve further.

Abelisaurid Kryptops in my life restoration:

What is Id in psyhology?

"The id consists of all the inherited (i.e. biological) components of personality, including the sex (life) instinct – Eros (which contains the libido), and aggressive (death) instinct - Thanatos.
The id is the impulsive (and unconscious) part of our psyche which responds directly and immediately to the instincts. The personality of the newborn child is all id and only later does it develop ego and super-ego.
The id demands immediate satisfaction and when this happens we experience pleasure, when it is denied we experience ‘unpleasure’ or pain. The id is not affected by reality, logic or the everyday world.
On the contrary, it operates on the pleasure principle (Freud, 1920) which is the idea that every wishful impulse should be satisfied immediately, regardless of the consequences."

The definition was borrowed from here: Symply Psyhology

A nicely writen review on the movie.

and...
 Movie mistakes, goofs and bloopers

Forbidden planet's Monster from the ID part 2

Flying saucer's Commander and the medical Doctor examine the cast of the monster's footprint. Their discussion:

DR.: -  NO, NO, CAPTAIN, THIS CREATURE RUNS COUNTER TO EVERY KNOWN LAW OF ADAPTIVE EVOLUTION.
COMMANDER (L. Nielsen): - WHAT DO YOU MEAN?
DR.: - NOTICE THIS STRUCTURE HERE? CHARACTERISTIC OF A FOUR-FOOTED ANIMAL. YET, OUR VISITOR OF TONIGHT LEFT THE FOOTPRINTS OF A BIPED. PRIMARILY A GROUND ANIMAL, TOO. IF THIS CLAW CAN ONLY BELONG TO AN ARBOREAL CREATURE, LIKE SOME IMPOSSIBLE TREE SLOTH. JUST DOESN'T FIT INTO A NORMAL NATURE.

BDW (Beri's Dinosaur World): - And yet, the good old doctor was quite wrong in his assumptions regarding the nature of the tracker as well as the nature of the the other real creatures that lived or are living on Earth.
First of all there's no way a footprint would have been preserved in such a detail to enable making a plaster cast of the quality featured in the movie. Second, the depth of the footprint is more related to the substrate material and its consistency than to the size or the weight of the animal. I have seen very deep fossil tracks left by the small dinosaurs and very shallow left by the giant ones. Even if the ID was walking on an ideally prepared clay, taking the foot out of it would deform the footprint's impression.
fact is that the arboreal living sloths have claws much different than the claw on the foot of the ID monster. In fact the sloth claws resemble the claws of a giant dinosaur Therizinosaurus. Here is the left arm of the three-toed sloth (Bradypus). The three-toed sloth's long claws are are adapted to an arboreal life but restrain its mobility on the ground.

Right hand and right foot (with a bit shorter claws) of Bradypus:

 
 The left foot of the extinct giant ground sloth mounted in NHM in London. (Photo credit: B.Krzic)
It looks as if from a biped, but ground sloths were primarily quadrupeds.

Left hand of Bradypus

Note the similarity of the tree sloths hand claws with the long, laterally flattened, slightly curved claws on the right hand (manus) of the giant dinosaur Therizinosaurus:

Source: Wikipedia

Dromaeosaurid killing sickle-claw was also compressed laterally. Here is the right foot of Deinonychus armed with the curved claw on toe #2:

In fact the ID's foot can be defined as a titanosaur sauropod foot armed with the allosaurid finger #1 claw.

Doctor in the movie measured the footprint cats of the monster:  37 INCHES BY 19 (about 90 cm long), quite shy compared to the Early Cretaceous sauropod footprints I have found in Istria: 130 cm long! ID's height = 460 cm.

Here is a rather good, but not quite complete (part of the heel is missing) natural cast of the right foot of the small sauropod (a titanosaur?).  You can see the little knobs, impressions of the toes. For size comparison: the little black bag is 13 cm long.

Here is the left footprint cast (130 cm long) of the giant sauropod from the same site. It is almost complete, but the impressions of the toe claws didn't preserve (photo credit: Berislav Krzic)

The ID's footprint cast of the right foot from the movie (below). A peculiar resemblance to the true sauropod track in the photo above (photo credit: Berislav Krzic)

 My restoration of the suropod's left foot based on the positive foot impression:

It is interesting to note that some quadruped dinosaurs were facultative bipeds. It's not just that they were capable of rearing up on their hind limbs, like the modern elephants can do, but it seems some were capable of walking or even running in both modes. Here is a paper on one such find:Tracks of a Running Bipedal Baby Brontosaur? Baby Sauropod Footprints Discovered in Colorado - Science Daily

Trivia for the end of this post:

The (animated) "big as a house", invisible, indestructible biped monster of ID in a shimmering light from blasters' fire in a climax scene in the movie.

Here is the best model of the ID monster I've seen: Forbidden Planet's ID Monster
 It is still not the real thing in my opinion. So, you'd better check out my restoration in the 3rd instalment of this article.

Forbidden planet's Monster from the ID part 1 (repost)

  I have reposted my paleontology related stuff published previously on my Oberon cartoons blog:

I keep watching Forbidden planet movie (1956) from time to time. It was so good, so ahead of its time in so many ways: from the music score to the design. One of my favourite scenes is when the captain and the doctor were speculating about the shape of the monster, deducting from cast of its footprint. It is quite similar to the real task when paleontologists are trying to figure out the characteristics and features of extinct animals who left only their petrified tracks in the rock. I search for the ancient tracks on the Adriatic coast and it is a lot of research and fun.

It is also amusing that some species of dinosaurs had claws, not unlike the one from the movie, but on their three-fingered hands. Check out the cast of the finger claw of the allosaurid theropod  Saurophaganax here :
 Sauropod Vertebra Picture of the Week

My drawings of the fossil bones of some theropod hands. Above is Megaraptor left hand (manus) and below is Allosaurus left hand: